U.S. INTELLIGENCE, CONTRADICTING ANKARA

DOUBTS CAST ON TURKEY'S STORY OF JET

U.S. INTELLIGENCE, CONTRADICTING ANKARA, Indicates Aircraft Was Shot Down by Syria in Its Own Airspace, Officials Say

By Julian e. Barnes, Adam Entous and Joe Parkinson
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31748.htm

NOTE from Hugo Adan


Do the Turkish want to be bombed?. The fact is that Ankara’s administration is adding fuel to the fire in a neighboring home-country and by doing so is jeopardizing peace & stability of their own nation. It doesn’t make sense to thrown stone to the ceiling of their common house (the Middle East) knowing that this ceiling is made of glass. They are putting at risk their own population just for a fistful of dollars pocketed by few oil traders, that doesn’t make sense. Are those profiteers playing g the game of the fundamentalists lead by the fat-“democrats” of Saudi Arabia?. Or the Ankara’s war-monguerists are becaming sensitive to the Kurds claim to re-create the State of Kurdistan just in between these two neighbors? (do they know that is easy to buy, train and arm kurds?)

Or are they planning to be partners in the invasion of Iran, knowing that the USA are becoming more and more uncertain about the cost-benefits on this adventure? For the US, it seems to be less risky to divide Turkey and eliminate the fats in Saudi Arabia than mess up with Russian- China’s nuclear-head missiles. So far they already agreed to negotiate a new deterrence policy (mutual disarm & peace deals in Syria) .

If they fail, what if Russia place tanks –with Mr Assad consent- just in front of the Turkish ones?. Does the Turkish believe that the US will bomb those tanks and putting at risk one hundred US military stations in neighboring countries?.. and just because the idiots in Ankara or in Tel Aviv wanted so?. I do not think so?. It is more likely that Ankara and Dimona be bombed, among others, if peace and deterrence fails?

So far, Ankara’s administration committed a crime against peace by violating Syrian airspace and commit also crimes against humanity by sending mercenaries to spread terrorism inside Syria. Before continue this policy they should consider what the US and Russian people are thinking on this matter.

The USA: A report by Wall Street Journal, citing US intelligence, claimed the plane was "most likely hit by shore-based anti-aircraft guns while it was inside Syrian airspace." This had huge impact.

Russia: "Russian data unambiguously confirms the fact that the plane violated Syrian airspace." While there was no official confirmation of this report, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said at the weekend that Russia had information about the plane's position and was prepared to share the data. SOURCE: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russia-thinks-turkish-jet-violated-syria-airspace


U.S. INTELLIGENCE, CONTRADICTING ANKARA
By Julian e. Barnes, Adam Entous and Joe Parkinson

July 01, 2012 "Wall Street Journal" -- U.S. intelligence indicates that a Turkish warplane shot down by Syrian forces was most likely hit by shore-based antiaircraft guns while it was inside Syrian airspace, American officials said, a finding in tune with Syria's account and at odds with Turkey.

The Turkish government, which moved tanks to the Syrian border after the June 22 incident, says the debris fell in Syrian waters, but maintains its fighter was shot down without warning in international airspace. Ankara also has said the jet was hit too far from Syrian territory to have been engaged by an antiaircraft gun. Continue reading: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304830704577497081567553846.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

TURKISH JET WAS DOWNED IN SYRIAN AIRSPACE, U.S. OFFICIALS INDICATE

PanARMENIAN.Net - U.S. intelligence indicates that a Turkish warplane shot down by Syrian forces was most likely hit by shore-based antiaircraft guns while it was inside Syrian airspace, American officials said, a finding in tune with Syria's account and at odds with Turkey, The Wall Street Journal reports.

The Turkish government, which moved tanks to the Syrian border after the June 22 incident, says the debris fell in Syrian waters, but maintains its fighter was shot down without warning in international airspace. Ankara also has said the jet was hit too far from Syrian territory to have been engaged by an antiaircraft gun.

Damascus has said it shot down the plane with an antiaircraft battery with an effective range of about 1.5 miles.

"We see no indication that it was shot down by a surface-to-air missile" as Turkey says, said a senior defense official. Officials declined to specify the sources of their information. The senior U.S. defense official cautioned that much remains unknown about the incident.

A Turkish official said he wasn't aware of the American doubts, and reiterated the government's position that a Syrian missile downed the plane in international airspace.

The downing of the jet spurred fears of a widening regional conflict and led the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, following a presentation by Turkey, to condemn Syria's action.

The use of antiaircraft fire would suggest the Turkish plane was flying low to the ground, and slowly, U.S. officials said - though Syria said the jet was traveling at 480 miles an hour. If hit by antiaircraft fire, the jet likely came closer to the Syrian shoreline than Turkey says, U.S. officials said.

According to the Journal, some current and former American officials believe Ankara has been testing Syrian defenses. The version of the Turkish F-4 Phantom that was shot down typically carries surveillance equipment, according to U.S. defense officials.

A former senior U.S. official who worked closely with Turkey said he believed the flight's course was meant to test Syria's response. "You think that the airplane was there by mistake?" the former official said.

"These countries are all testing how fast they get picked up and how fast someone responds," said a senior U.S. official. "It's part of training."

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