THE BURNING OF KORAN and TIMES WHEN KILLING AFGHANS IS NOT FUN

THE BURNING OF KORAN and TIMES WHEN KILLING AFGHANS IS NOT FUN
Hugo Adan. February 28, 2012

http://nd-hugoadan.blogspot.com/

Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis, then a lieutenant general, told a crowd in San Diego that it was "fun to shoot some people" and said that some Afghans deserved to die.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25916.htm

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EEUU investiga a soldados que mataban civiles afganos para divertirse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/afghanistan-war-logs-military-leaks

INTRODUCTION

This seems to be the end of two decades of mixing feelings regarding western occupiers in Afghanistan, including Britts and Russians. The key question is: Does the US invasion prove to be much more lethal than the previous invaders’s to Afghans and Muslims in general?. Let’s explore some answers for this question in BBC articles, but first I want to layout my preliminary opinion as observer of this riddles.

1. Sequence of events: The day 20 the protest start in Kabul and Jalalabad against the burning of Koran in an incinerator at Bagram airbase. The day 22, 6 Afghans were killed because of throwing stone to soldiers. Then, immediately came the apology. The Americans claimed that copies of the Koran were being used to smuggle messages. If so, soldiers were obeying orders. Meaning: the US troops must have done it deliberately, some say, to create instability - so they can stay longer.

2. My 1st point is that not either the Britts or Russians burned the Koran. Do they did it?

3. My 2nd point, most people knows that the ideology that binds all the rivalries among lords of war and different ethnicities in Afghanistan is just one single religion and their faith in Koran as a holy book.

4. My 3rd point, It seems to me than more than the flag is the Koran that unite Afghans. Their existence as united single nation-state goes in that order: nation first and state second. So, without the Koran Afghanistan does not exist in the mind-set of them.

Let’s work with these premises:

5. The Obama apology to the head of the nation has not meaning to the whole nation; it only helps to separate the head (as accomplice of the invaders) from the body (the nation). I’m not saying that Obama should’ve not done such apology, he had to calm the environment for the coming Conference with 60 State representatives in Tunisia the day 25.

6. The order of his words in the apology were wrong and incomplete. He first should apologize to the nation and then to the head of the State. To be consistent with the nation, Obama should have addressed the people’s feeling and explain why the soldiers did so and how they will be punished by a Tribunal of Afghan-US Court and then, he should announced the immediate withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.

7. How Obama think about the Muslims feelings when a General said that it is fun the kills Afghans, or when soldiers urinate on afghans corpses or when photos cross the globe showing the brutal & nasty torture of Muslims in Abu Graib and other US prisons? I guess he was very disturbed too.

8. Of course Obama was not ready and nor willing to do the right apology for several reasons: first, because this does not depend on him to decide it, but on military industrial team who run these wars abroad. Second , because the US public opinion has been kidnapped by conservative troglodytes that instead of apology were suggesting that Afghanistan should been carpet-bombed up to the stone age. In fact, this was done by Bush did and it didn’t work. Third, because the mind-set of the US nation has been framed with nonsense xenophobic attitudes against Muslims, so even when he did the right thing in apologizing, some conservatives took it bad. Fourth, because Obama himself was an active actor or accomplice in the previous political behavior. This was aggravated by the fact of showing up open sympathy with the foreign policies of the Zionists from Israel.

9. Considering such factors I would say that the Koran-up raising is just the pretext to unite all Muslims in a holy war against Western invaders. It might be at the beginning an anarchist disorganized expression of hate, but if the war in Syria and Iran comes through it could became easily an organized movement worldwide. So. the lest to expect from this mistake is the radicalization of the uprising in Arab Countries, and the start of rebellions in those manipulated countries by the Arab League , plus the start of the uprising in Saudi Arabia and in Muslim African nations.

10. The worst scenario is the escalation of the holly Muslim war inside western countries. Is not such rush that united the resistance of Algerians against the French invaders ? Those fighters bombed Paris’ shopping centers for several months until the French withdraw Algeria. That happened almost 50 years ago, during the previous rebellions against colonialism. Today neo-colonialism is worse than the previous one and we should be prepare for the worse too.

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Sources for this article are mainly the Andrew North reports to BBC and some Videos like: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17123817

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WILL AFGHAN KORAN ROW PROVE NATO'S TIPPING POINT?

By Andrew North. BBC News, Kabul
23 February 2012

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17140569

“With anti-American demonstrations spreading across the country, what may just have been soldiers obeying a simple order could turn into a tipping point”

There is an end of an era feeling in Kabul these days - for what Afghans see as the latest foreign venture in their country. The revelation that US troops had dumped copies of the Koran into an incineration pit may hasten that end.

They have seen off the Russians and the British before and now it is America's time that is drawing to a close, with the British and other Nato allies eager to depart with them.

At the very least, [the burning of Koran] has provided an open goal for the Taliban and anyone else who wants to provoke anti-American and anti-foreigner sentiments.

There are few more emotive issues in Afghanistan than allegations of the Islamic holy book being desecrated. It has triggered violent disturbances as far back as 2005 - even when the claims of the Koran being mishandled have not been substantiated.

'SAME MISTAKES'

Last year, at least 10 people were killed in Mazar-e Sharif after news reached Afghanistan of an extremist American pastor burning a Koran in faraway Florida.

US troop have been accused of deliberately burning Korans. There is quiet fury within the Afghan government towards the Americans at what one official calls their "brainless" behavior.

They are making the "same mistakes as the Russians", say Afghan analyst Omar Safi - failing to respect the Muslim religion. "No-one should die because of a few books being set on fire," one Afghan official told me on condition of anonymity. But "that is no excuse" he said, for American actions.

Even people still well-disposed towards them cannot believe how they could have allowed this to happen, after more than a decade here and many previous mistakes.

Never before have the Americans apologized so quickly and so profusely as this time - but it sounds hollow to many Afghans.

BATTLE FOR PERCEPTIONS

Returning to Afghanistan after several years away, it is striking how much the mood has changed against the US and its allies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16851949

From recent episodes of troops urinating on Taliban bodies to the many instances of civilians being killed over the past 11 years, attitudes towards the Americans have progressively hardened.

There is also widespread frustration at how little has changed, despite the huge quantities of money that have poured in here.

In the main battleground areas of southern and eastern Afghanistan, there are fewer outdoor wedding parties these days - because they have been bombed so many times by US pilots who think they are seeing Taliban gatherings from thousands of feet up.

The US and its Nato allies rightly argue the Taliban kill far more civilians with their suicide and other attacks. But the Americans are the ones who claim to uphold the highest standards.

What is more, the US doctrine is supposed to be "to protect the population". So this is how they are judged.

And as has been said so many times in the past, there is no military solution in Afghanistan. It is ultimately a battle for perceptions.

More conspiratorially-minded Afghans find it hard to believe these Korans were burnt by mistake. US troops must have done it deliberately, some say, to create instability - so they can stay longer.

For the moment though, it is the Americans who are on the defensive - giving the much-criticized government of President Hamid Karzai some relief.

With US-Afghan negotiations over a strategic partnership still bogged down over issues like night-time raids and control of prisoners, Mr Karzai has been quick to seize the advantage - saying THE KORAN BURNING DISASTER WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF THE AFGHANS HAD BEEN IN CHARGE.

The Korans were originally taken from prisoners in US detention, because the Americans apparently believed detainees were using the books to pass messages.

With anti-American demonstrations spreading across the country, what may just have been soldiers obeying a simple order could turn into a tipping point.

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